Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

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Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:17 pm

Well, while my Back in Black tone project continues on, I started working on Highway to Hell (the album) tone, too.
Those two are my favourite ones.
Well, just got yesterday an Aracom attenuator, this one Aracom Amplifiers Crank it up! Power Rox PRX150-Pro Power Attenuator
Now I can really crank my 2204 like I used to do years ago.
This allowed me to do this today:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvMYwjmIdPM[/youtube]

I think I am close to it. Aracom is the first attenuator in my life that sounded so good.
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby Stretchy » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:59 pm

:shock: Freaking nice tone Fil!

Can't put anymore $ in my tone and I'll stick with my Hot Plate, but this is awesome!

Oh... and nice playing too :wink:
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby toner » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:20 pm

Sounds great!
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby VintageCharlie » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:02 am

Thanks for the vid!

Sounds really good. Will pull out the records and refresh my memory - i used to think that older Marshalls were used by them for this.

Oh, and you beat Jim Carrey in his main talent too :)


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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:40 am

Glad you boys liked it.
Now I will state my thought: depsite what AC/DC themselves said, I think a good part of Highway to Hell was made with 2203/2204. I can definitely hear that pre-amp fuzz now that my ear has gotten accustomed with mine.

Outrageous, ain't it.
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby Roe » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:48 am

I'm not sure about Highway to hell. ****** said it was recorded with plexis with a cold bias
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:57 am

Roe wrote:I'm not sure about Highway to hell. ****** said it was recorded with plexis with a cold bias

Who said that? lol I get it as a curse with asterisks :lol:
DId you hear my video brother Roe? For the solos it may be that they used classic circuits, but the rhythm on this one, on Angus part, I really hear pre-amp?
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Postby Roe » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:34 pm

I haven't tried the video, no. I didn't add the astericks. chris ****** is not very popular here
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:32 pm

Did a new one. Same amp, different miking:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelghuayzXk[/youtube]
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:24 am

BUMParoni with Blue cheese and some Parmesan on it. Delicious. Looking for opinions here, not self praise (do not worry, you CAN tell me if it makes you puke).
I say again, recorded with a 1978 2204, one microphone for rhythm, two for soloing.

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(PS, please enjoy the Maccaroni, best pasta EVER but remember to put some blue cheese on it)
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby Stretchy » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:51 pm

I'll have a macaroni for sure soon... but what really makes me puke is your **** talent! Now... the **** are for cursing!

Very very nice job! Keep it going! :hairband:
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby SoloDallas » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:33 am

Thanks mate. So what do you think of my theory? Would it possible for you that a 2203/2204 was used?
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby Stretchy » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:52 pm

Funny you ask... you know what really puzzles me ? I bet that at times, they use/try what Marshall offered them. I know they had a "thing" with Marshall, the Marshall 2000 (an extinct species now) was develop with the help of the band (look at Doyle book), so when the Young brothers say that they "dont like those new master volume amp Marshall made", they maybe were talking about the experience they had with it, not only what they heard.

If this is true, then, yes, it's more then a probability that they used them.

And, lastly, in the back of my mind, it may be that in the end, they dont really gives a sh*t about the amps, they just plug them and use them. This kind of "I dont care and if you dont like it, then f*ck it" couldn't be more representative of the Young brothers! This kind of "I take no prisonner" approach is why we so much love these guys!

And just think about Slash and his S.I.R. amp. All that time he tought that it was a JCM 800, when in fact it was a Super lead. The tech in the interview say to Slash "See, it has 4 holes, so it's a Superlead model, a 1959 moded with a master volume" to which Slash respond "Hey, I havent noticed that!" I goes to say that these guitar heroes are what they are, guitar player extraodinaire that dont fuss with details (unlike me lol).

I saw a recent pick of the Young brothers in front of a "Ard" amp (I guess Wizard, pround Canadian amp maker woohoo!!!... see the pic here http://www.wizardamplification.com/artists.htm) I know the pic isn't "vintage", i think it's taken from the BlackIce sessions, but it means that they aren't "stuck" in a mold they feel they should hold on to. So, yes, 2203/2204 was maybe the tone of the BIB album. I guess that in 1980, that 2203/2204 was a big thing and they gave it a try!

And lastly, when I hear you play, I bet that even if YOU play on a lousy Line6 15 watt solidstate amp, YOU'd make it sound like Angus, cause you have it in your fingers! Now... *I* have to use all the techno I can get to approximate that sound... did I told you my superlead is coming ? :rock:

Take care bro!
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby leadguy » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:22 am

Yeah, I'd have to agree with the previous poster.

I personally think that the best tone and playing by both brothers is the early stuff around Long Way To The Top.

It's raw with a lot of energy and there is a simplicity to brother George and Harry's production.

It was basically a case of use whatever gear was around if it sounded ok and they were very much like early VH in a way with basically just playing live in the studio.

The riffs and songwriting were number 1 and all the gear way down the list.
Their brother George (also Harry) was a great songwriter as well.

The later stuff is produced in a more conventional way IMO and lacks something that the earlier stuff had and also the earlier stuff had Bonn of course.
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Re: Aracom Attenuator and a 2204: AC/DC TONE?

Postby Roe » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:18 am

I guess the young bros did use 2203s on the road in the 70s. but mal's recorded tone from dirty deeds on sounds pretty much like a superbass. ang's tone is more varied. but I find that a 1959 is great for most of ang's 1978-80 studio tones. a 1959 sounds more open, uncompressed and clean than a 2203, something which is usually a good thing if you want to play ac/dc riffs.
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